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"}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"L’activité se partage entre expertise-comptable, conseil, consolidations, fusions… Avec une particularité pour un cabinet de cette taille : "},{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":"« Notre "},{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis","strong"],"value":"activité de commissariat aux comptes reste élevée"},{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":" »"},{"type":"span","value":" déclare Pascal Robert. "}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"Malgré la loi Pacte ? L’explication est double : "}]},{"type":"blockquote","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":"« D'une part, le cabinet gère essentiellement des structures au-dessus des seuils et d’autre part beaucoup d’entreprises ont préféré conserver un Commissaire aux Comptes, que ce soit vis-à-vis de leurs actionnaires, ou simplement pour bénéficier de deux approches au lieu d’une. »"}]}]},{"type":"heading","level":2,"children":[{"type":"span","value":"12 ans de Cloud !"}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"Pascal Robert a la charge de tous les outils métier du cabinet. Et il s’y est montré précurseur : "}]},{"type":"blockquote","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":"« Il y a maintenant 12 ans que nous avons fait le choix d’externaliser nos données dans le Cloud. "},{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis","strong"],"value":"C’était une avancée considérable qui nous a beaucoup facilité la vie"},{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":". Plus de serveurs à gérer en interne, plus de mises à jour à faire, sauvegardes automatiques, facilité à se connecter à distance… "}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":"Sans oublier "},{"url":"https://www.shine.fr/blog/expert-comptable-cybercriminalite-menaces","type":"link","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":"les questions de cyber-sécurité"}]},{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":" : c’est le blocage de la production pendant trois jours à la suite d’une défaillance technique d’un de nos serveurs qui a emporté notre décision d’aller dans le Cloud. »"}]}]},{"type":"heading","level":2,"children":[{"type":"span","value":"Pourquoi passer à Cegid Loop ?"}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"Client historique de Cegid, l’expert-comptable en a connu les différentes gammes et leurs évolutions. Jusqu’à 2019, JPA Paris travaillait avec Cegid Expert. "}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":"Pourquoi décider de passer à Cegid Loop il y a deux ans ?"}]},{"type":"blockquote","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":"« Cegid Expert est une solution mature, qui donne satisfaction. Mais elle a son âge. Nous voulions aller vers un outil moderne, capable de favoriser à la fois l’automatisation de nos tâches et services et faciliter le collaboratif avec nos clients. C’était exactement la philosophie de Cegid Loop."}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":"Les client·es évoluent plus vite qu’on ne l’imagine. Ainsi par exemple, via les outils Cegid Expert, nous avions organisé la transmission et la reconnaissance des pièces en mettant en place des scanners Box chez nos client·es. Mais deux ans plus tard, ils n’utilisaient plus les Box ! Ayant créé leur propre GED, Ils nous envoient les pièces numérisées par d’autres moyens : mail, plateforme dédiée, etc. »"}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"➡️ Il fallait un nouvel outil pour"},{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":" aller plus loin :"}]},{"type":"list","style":"bulleted","children":[{"type":"listItem","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":"dans la digitalisation "},{"type":"span","value":": réduire le papier au strict minimum ;"}]}]},{"type":"listItem","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":"dans l’automatisation "},{"type":"span","value":": regagner du temps de travail disponible ;"}]}]},{"type":"listItem","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":"dans de nouvelles approches "},{"type":"span","value":"pour optimiser les services rendus ;"}]}]},{"type":"listItem","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"dans la démonstration visible que le cabinet se situe à"},{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":" la pointe de la technologie métier."}]}]}]},{"type":"heading","level":2,"children":[{"type":"span","value":"Cegid Loop : un outil révolutionnaire "}]},{"item":"fqF_jtAxT9KsRWB2Ajh9hA","type":"block"},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"Cegid Loop ne se contente pas d’empiler des documents scannés à reprendre plus tard : "},{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":"il se met à travailler dès que la facture a été stockée."},{"type":"span","value":" Le client·e peut ainsi disposer de sa comptabilité en direct, à partir du moment où il transmet la pièce. 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Savoir l’expliquer, pour moi, c’est la clé du succès. »"}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"Parmi les avantages pour le dirigeant·e, on notera en particulier :"}]},{"type":"list","style":"bulleted","children":[{"type":"listItem","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"un "},{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":"service optimisé et réactif ;"}]}]},{"type":"listItem","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":"plus de temps perdu à rechercher les pièces ;"}]}]},{"type":"listItem","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","value":"et surtout, disposer d’une "},{"type":"span","marks":["strong"],"value":"comptabilité à jour en temps réel "},{"type":"span","value":"pour prendre les bonnes décisions."}]}]}]},{"type":"blockquote","children":[{"type":"paragraph","children":[{"type":"span","marks":["emphasis"],"value":"« Nous pouvons aller plus loin, en fournissant des tableaux de bord personnalisés se mettront à jour en temps réel sans que nous ayons à intervenir. 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